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PostSubject: happy halloween   Mon Oct 27, 2008 9:55 pm

happy halloween

wooot ...
noticed, Moony made us a "happy halloween"-banner for the forum website ...
nice ... ;-) ...

just ... thumb question of an oldfashioned german, what is this halloween
all about ? ... when I was a child there was no "halloween", since 1-2 decades
now it swaps over, but I never really got what it is about and what background
it comes from.

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PostSubject: Re: happy halloween   Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:05 pm

I dont think people really do know what its about its just a modern thing thats been raped for commercial values..

There is All saints(or is it souls) day though 1st novemebr for catholics and I think Samhain is a pagan festival that eves on the 31st (so the 1st also)... I have also read in the past that it signifies a new lunar period (celtic or Gaul i think), that it is related to harvest etc etc.
One thing i do know from stufff i did at school is that there (pre 19th century ) was not a mention of the specific date or the word halloween in old texts . So i think its just a modern mutation of Samhain and All saints (souls) day.
The links today in the festical for ghosts etc is just steeped in modern Bullshit folklore...
the festival all stems either from ancient harvests/liunar activities... it prolly involves some fires and livestock slaughter centuries ago so you can see how it has been changed into what it is today.
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PostSubject: Re: happy halloween   Mon Oct 27, 2008 11:40 pm

:O :O :O YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT HALLOWEEN IS?!?!?!

It was a day to celebrate the dead. But now it's more of a trick-or-treat thing! People dress up in costumes going door to door saying trick-or-treat for candy! CANDY CANDY CANDY! yummm, so basicly they dress up in scary costumes, sometimes not scary, and go door to door getting candy. then we bring it home and rot our teeth out What a Face We decorate our houses too, with tombstones and spiderwebs, witches, pumpkins)jack-o-lanterns. Halloween is October 31st and is a day most kids look forward too!


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PostSubject: Re: happy halloween   Tue Oct 28, 2008 3:55 am

no thats the modern commercial mutation lol... though i think the all souls day is for that and not quite dead coming back either. but regardless it is not on the 31st Wink
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PostSubject: Re: happy halloween   Tue Oct 28, 2008 9:44 am

the running from door to door costumized-thingy we have in early spring at
carneval, getting candies and fruit, but almost costumes of the light side only,
we went as cowboys, indians, in animal costumes and so on, nothing related
to the deads or ghost.

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PostSubject: Re: happy halloween   Tue Oct 28, 2008 3:08 pm

Halloween has its origins in the ancient Celtic festival known as Samhain (Irish pronunciation:
from the Old Irish samain).
The festival of Samhain is a celebration of the end of the harvest season in Gaelic culture,
and is sometimes regarded as the "Celtic New Year".Traditionally, the festival was
a time used by the ancient pagans to take stock of supplies and slaughter livestock for winter stores.
The ancient Gaels believed that on October 31, now known as Halloween, the boundary between the alive
nd the deceased dissolved, and the dead become dangerous for the living by causing problems such as sickness or damaged crops.
The festivals would frequently involve bonfires, into which bones of slaughtered livestock were thrown. Costumes and masks
were also worn at the festivals in an attempt to mimic the evil spirits or placate them. (these would have been non-descript demons, witches were valued then to sweep the land for the crops to grow, by mounting a broom and dancing along a field, hence witch rides broom, not quite as romantic as flying lol.)

All Hallow’s Eve is the eve of All Hallow’s Day (November 1). And for once, even popular tradition remembers that the eve is more important than the day itself, the traditional celebration focusing on October 31, beginning at sundown. And this seems only fitting for the great Celtic New Year’s festival. Not that the holiday was Celtic only. In fact, it is startling how many ancient and unconnected cultures (the Egyptians and pre-Spanish Mexicans, for example) celebrated this as a festival of the dead. But the majority of our modern traditions can be traced to the British Isles.


Then droped to a minor day by the rest of us, we celebrated by dressing up when I was little to clebrate and we got sweets and fruit ect ect in our little bags, and we carved pumpkin heads and all that , but America adopted it in a huge way, its' only now that we are seing the UK kids buying stuff for it, but sayng that still not as huge as it is in the States.
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PostSubject: Re: happy halloween   Tue Oct 28, 2008 7:24 pm

thx for all the replies ... guess the celtic roots have been heavier destroyed in
middle europe, so here in germany all the dead/undead-stuff hardly has a real
basis anymore ... what swaps over now is almost the us-commercialisation of
their halloween. kids here are adapting it more and more though.

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PostSubject: Re: happy halloween   Tue Oct 28, 2008 11:59 pm

WEEE CANDY! all it is here really Smile costumes and candy and decorating!
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